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Socratic Babies - How children teach us about ourselves and the world.

Welcome to the January Carnival of Natural Parenting: Learning from children

This post was written for inclusion in the monthly Carnival of Natural Parenting hosted by Hobo Mama and Code Name: Mama. This month our participants have shared the many lessons their children have taught them. Please read to the end to find a list of links to the other carnival participants.

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socartes.jpgThere are many children in my life that I have learned from. I am a teacher, a stepmother and a mother (consecutive order). As a teacher I have met children from between 8 and 14 years old. My stepdaughters were 10 and 14 when I moved in with their dad. As a mother of mono-zygotic twins I have an interesting perspective because I am an observer of the development of two individuals with the same nuclear DNA.

You start learning from your kids the moment they are born, and it is a life long thing. As with most things, you get a lot more out of it if you pay attention. From the minute of birth, you ask? Absolutely. First impressions: "The Look". It's a thousand year old look. It goes beyond wrinkly and scrunched up from the nine months soaking in a tight space, and the "big squeeze". It has a lot to do with the eyes. A lot of people discount eye contact saying that babies can't focus; they're just seeing blur, etc. I don't think that is true. From the first moment, they show personality, they don't just cry, they cry in a certain way, in a brand new voice; a voice that is unique among the 7 billion or so people on this planet. Body language is also immediate and unique. Fiona was born with her "dukes up". She was ready to fight. The OB's first words when she was born were "she's a feisty one". Fiona still is stubborn and feisty. Sophie was more laid back from the get go and remains so. She is also very sensitive and sweet. They were born with personalities and they continue to develop different personalities and looks. This is an area in which it is so fascinating having twins.

I have "identical" twins, born within eight minutes of each other just over four years ago, and I was struck immediately with how different they are. How can that be? They have identical nuclear DNA, they come from the same environment, shouldn't they be the same? Having twins makes you ask these questions and once asked, these questions lead you to explore many things. These babies are Socratic teachers, posing interesting questions. Some of these questions have led me to research genes, gene expression, nature vs. nurture, etc. I have written in detail about types of twinning and reasons for twinning and I wrote a long, detailed comment on Jen's post where the PPs got into whether one is born homosexual or not.

As a teacher, one of the most important things I have learned is that I am not a behaviourist. I am not enrolled in the Pavlov's dog school of discipline. As a teacher and a parent, I have tried reward and punishment systems. At school I often struggle with this type of classroom management because it is always too complicated for me to keep track of. Does little Johnny have two checkmarks or one? What about Sally, I think I said I would give her another checkmark, but did I? What are the consequences for three checkmarks? There's really nothing except detention during recess and I know the kids really need that time to get fresh air and get some exercise. Of course, the best classroom management program is to keep the students engaged, but I've learned that it is difficult to keep 27 different individuals all engaged, all the time, at the same time. So that doesn't always work. So, I try to form a community in my classroom where we all learn to respect one another's needs and differences. This is very difficult because the education system, and indeed our (western) world, is based on a system of rewards and consequences. When I'm teaching the upper elementary grades the students come to me with years of classroom management systems experience under their belts. It generally takes me most of the year to get to where I want to be and then we all move on. I'm hoping to change that by convincing my school to institute the Tribes program.

With my own kids I sometimes resort to consequences & rewards. I don't want to but I am often stumped. I try to make them "natural" or "logical" consequences, although I'm not sure I really believe in those terms. For example, I will sometimes say that my girls cannot move onto a new activity until they have cleaned up the previous one. Or they can't have a treat if they don't eat their supper. What I've learned from this is that they learn about relating to others through observing and interacting with us. They now "threaten" each other and me. One of them will say, "If you don't give me a candy I will.... (sometimes the consequence is severe) hit you, or even, kill you". I don't know where the hitting/killing comes from, definitely not from me and not from Treehouse either. 

I've learned a lot from my step-daughters and their relationships with their parents and with me. There are many positive things I've learned like how to have a positive relationship with a teenager through trying to listen to their perspectives and not just push my own agenda on them. Luckily, it didn't take me long to figure this out so we have had a pretty good relationship. This knowledge helps me with my young twins and with my students. I also learned how to keep my own emotions in check when a teenager (or anyone but it seems to be a rite of passage with many teens) says something hurtful. When I was hurt my first instinct is to lash out and say something mean back, but I learned not to. It would only make the situation worse and damage the relationship. I have learned that the children often repeat the mistakes of the parents. One of them is making many of the same mistakes her mother made, mistakes she is well aware of and is cognizant of the consequences. This is fascinating and disturbing at the same time. I know I have to be extra careful not to make mistakes that can have long- term effects on my children.

I have learned so much more than I can express in this post and I continue to learn from children every day.

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3 Comments

this was such a deep post = thank you for all the detail and experiences you shared. I loved the expression of the wrinkly faces teaching us so much - I remember that furrowed brow so much. My daughter still does that occasionally now at the grand age of 9 and she looks so wise :)

Isn't it how funny how quickly they learn our strategies? A big phrase in our house is "ok, here's the plan - we're gong to A, B, then we can C." So Kieran frequently says, "ok, here's the plan, we're going to play, then watch a movie!" Oh how I wish that were always true, kid ;)

So interesting to hear your thoughts on all your versions of parenting/teaching kids. I've often wondered if it's possible (or maybe, just easy/convenient enough) to parent or teach older children in a different fashion than was experienced their whole life up to that point — I mean, as a teacher of students who, as you say, have been through a behavioral system up till now, or as a stepparent or adoptive or foster parent. I can see where there must be challenges there, so much unlearning of the old before new learning can begin. It sounds like you've been very thoughtful about it and will continue to be observant, which is inspiring to me.